[Atmob-discuss] Con call re Observatory Issues?
Nielsen, Gunnlaugur Petur,Md
GNIELSEN at PARTNERS.ORG
Sat Mar 22 18:36:59 EDT 2008
I'll be there
Petur
-----Original Message-----
From: atmob-discuss-bounces at atmob.org on behalf of Neil Fleming
Sent: Sat 3/22/2008 6:19 PM
To: Fred Ward; ATMoB
Subject: Re: [Atmob-discuss] Con call re Observatory Issues?
A bunch of good ideas here.
I spent some time today calling my buddies in the
hobby, as well as some of the vendors. I received a
few good ideas.
I'd like to set up a chat for Monday night,say, at 8PM
Eastern. Here is the freeconferencecall dot com
dial-in information:
Conference Dial-in Number: (712) 432-1699
Participant Access Code: 604809#
If, for some reason, this doesn't work out, we can
used one I have associated with work.
Any takers?...Neil
--- Fred Ward <drfred at hughes.net> wrote:
> Without throwing cold water on any proposal, the
> Harris Center for Conservation Education in Hancock,
> NH, just down the road from Stoddard, has indicated
> interest is being the site for an observatory (or
> two or more). They offer a heated building and
> facilities for our use, but with the caveat that
> they can use some equipment for astronomy courses
> and star parties. The main limitation appears to be
> whether we can find a suitable spot on their land,
> but they are interested in talking. Also, they
> would love to host one of our meetings, if the
> distance and lack of any guarantee of clear skies
> are not insurmountable.
> Fred Ward
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul A. Valleli
> To: Bernie Volz (volz) ; Neil Fleming ; Buonomo,
> John ; Nielsen, Gunnlaugur Petur,Md ;
> pbealo at comcast.net ; bruce at scopemaker.com ; Mario
> Motta ; Brewster LaMacchia ; ATMoB
> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 11:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Atmob-discuss] Con call re
> Observatory Issues?
>
>
> First of all, Bernie, Thank you for removing 40
> acres from development. That is a very difficult
> decision to make when the developers come along
> waving wads of cash. This is a beautiful, somewhat
> remote, but not to much so, section of NH and I wish
> I was in a position to do likewise.
>
> It is on the way to my favorite summer vacation
> spot on Meredith Neck. The LP there is disgusting,
> no thanks to Weirs Beach.
>
> Those that have not seen it should visit the large
> rolloff at Wallace Observatory. I believe that Bruce
> Berger can get you in to see it. If I remember,
> there are six piers installed,each with a 14-inch
> S-C for student use. Each section is partitioned but
> only red lights are permitted during any
> observations. Servicing is done by the observing
> assistant during the daytime. While working for
> Ealing, I was project manager for the optics of the
> 16-inch and 24-inch scopes on the property.
>
> Stellafane is considering a similar rolloff obs.
> to be located to the south east of the McGregor Obs.
> This would house Brian Lula's 20-inch astrograph and
> would be slightly larger than the Ed Knight Obs. at
> Westford. Dave Prowten may have some comments on
> that building, but we can't start it until the
> Pavilion is paid off. Stellafane is a 2 1/2 hour
> drive from home, about the same as to Gary Walker's
> dark sky site way up north.
>
> The LLC ownership concept seems like a good way to
> deal with the leases, if that is what is desired.
> Paul
>
> ---- Original message ----
>
> From: "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz at cisco.com>
> Subject: Re: [Atmob-discuss] Con call re
> Observatory Issues?
>
<GNIELSEN at PARTNERS.ORG>,<pbealo at comcast.net>,<bruce at scopemaker.com>,"Mario
> Motta" <drmariomotta at gmail.com>,"Brewster LaMacchia"
> <brewster at mds.com>,"ATMoB" <atmob-discuss at atmob.org>
> >At this point, I don't see how that matters
> that much (at least to me).
> >Whether several people want to get together for
> a single structure
> >either with one or many scopes or multiple
> separate buildings doesn't
> >change that much in my mind.
> >
> >>From a pratical point of view, I think having
> one large facility to
> >house many scopes is an extremely bad idea:
> >- If any one scope needs service, it may impact
> others. How can you turn
> >on lights when the three other scopes around
> you are doing long
> >exposures?
> >- Large structures are much more expensive to
> build than smaller ones
> >and require much more complex systems. Mario
> can probably atest to that
> >- building a 16' dome was a lot easier than an
> 18'.
> >- A single structure has limits (such as
> height) that might restrict the
> >telescopes that can go in. If you can build
> what you need, you aren't
> >restricted (except by your own choices).
> >
> >When we look at the provided examples (URLs in
> earlier emails) and at
> >professional observatories, you usually don't
> see multiple scopes in a
> >single structure.
> >
> >Again, if two or three people want to share,
> there's nothing wrong with
> >that.
> >
> >I do think that the concept of a group bunk
> house / remote control
> >center may be preferred over having small rooms
> attached to each
> >observatory.
> >
> >- Bernie
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Neil Fleming
> [mailto:neilfleming at yahoo.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 3:19 PM
> >To: Bernie Volz (volz); Buonomo, John; Nielsen,
> Gunnlaugur Petur,Md;
> >pbealo at comcast.net; bruce at scopemaker.com; Mario
> Motta; Brewster
> >LaMacchia; ATMoB
> >Subject: Con call re Observatory Issues?
> >
> >Bernie, it would be good to hear your ideas re
> the
> >"one large vs many small" observatory issues.
> >
> >I envision a chat of interested parties...not
> to seek
> >any sort of committment, but to sketch out
> ideas,
> >relative interests, and the issues involved.
> >
> >For example, although I have used such
> facilities in
> >the past, both very remotely and fairly nearby,
> there
> >are many things I don't know. I figure we can
> collect
> >issues that can be divided up and spooled off
> for
> >individual investigation, then checkpointed
> back to
> >the interested group.
> >
> >I can set this up...but I need to know what
> time works
> >for most folks. Saturday am? Monday pm?
> >
> >Thoughts?...Neil
> >
> >--- "Bernie Volz (volz)" <volz at cisco.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I really think that at least in terms of my
> >> property, it is important
> >> for people to see it first. And, I'd prefer
> to
> >> discuss these kinds of
> >> issues face-to-face at least initially.
> >>
> >> So, please go ahead with a conference call
> but I do
> >> not plan to
> >> participate in it at this time. Your reasons
> for
> >> holding this call are
> >> much different than mine. I, for example,
> have no
> >> interest in
> >> investigating an alternative site.
> >>
> >> - Bernie
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Buonomo, John
> >> [mailto:Jbuonomo at uhs.harvard.edu]
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 10:41 AM
> >> To: Bernie Volz (volz); Nielsen, Gunnlaugur
> >> Petur,Md; Neil Fleming;
> >> pbealo at comcast.net; bruce at scopemaker.com;
> Mario
> >> Motta; Brewster
> >> LaMacchia
> >> Subject: RE: [Atmob-discuss]
> volz at metrocast.net sent
> >> this to you
> >> usingGoogleMaps: Center Harbor, NH
> >>
> >>
> >> Bernie,
> >> I think that I speak for everyone in saying
>
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