[Atmob-announce] [Atmob-discuss] towns with LP laws

[Paul A. Valleli]

Mario,
You misread my words and intentions. No way do I
feel defeated or on the losing side. I just want to
see what happens when a by-law has no teeth in it as
has happened in some situations.
This is why I dislike Matt Arsenault's proposed
by-law changes. I think the IDA model legislation
will be more effective. At best , I might submit
both plans for analysis by the By-Law Review
Committee.
 
I have been observing what is happening in other
locations and how effective their rules/laws are.
Why would I spend a small fortune on a new
observatory if I didn't plan to take action?
The high level administrators and politicians in my
town are very qualified and astute, but if it has to
do with development, green policies fall to the
wayside.
 
Our high-end Aston-Martin dealership is moving and
expanding to the intersection of Rt. 3A ( Cambridge
St. ) and I-95. Their record of light pollution at
the old site was obnoxious and it may be a major
fight to prevent another Jordan's Furniture Carnival
from occurring.
I think it is outrageous when I hear how many
elderly drivers say they gave up driving at night
because of glare disability. Where are our citizen's
rights as taxpayers ?
 
Paul
  
 
---- Original message ----

  Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:01:19 -0400
  From: "Mario Motta" <mmotta at massmed.org>
  Subject: Re: [Atmob-discuss] towns with LP laws
  To: "Paul A. Valleli" <valleli at rcn.com>
  Cc: "Bern Kosicki"
  <kosicki at verizon.net>,atmob-announce at atmob.org,ATMOB-discuss
  <atmob-discuss at atmob.org>

  Paul, (and all), why so defeatest?? 
  Submit and work for a town ordinance and and see
  what happens.
  The public is mostly on our side, their has been a
  sea change in attitude the past few years.
  I got Gloucester to approve based on sound
  arguments, and the public supported all the way,
  you can do the same. neither I (or any other
  outsider) can do the same in your town.
  If you think you need data, there is plenty. I am
  currently trying to accumulate the world
  literature on this, already have quite a few
  documents on the effects of glare disability. You
  can simply search on Google "glare disability" you
  will see many supporting documents.

  I thank all for the info on towns, I needed that
  data, and will compile a list when I speak in the
  Senate next week. If any know of more towns, keep
  the data coming. This will prove helpful for our
  strategy with the State as well.

  Everyone (especially you Paul), stop being
  defeatest. If you make no attempt, then you
  deserve the light polluted skies over Burlington
  you have. The spark of change has to come from us,
  go for it.

  Mario Motta

  On Thu, Jul 17, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Paul A. Valleli
  <valleli at rcn.com> wrote:

    I believe John Blomquist said there was a new
    law in place in Westford, several years ago.
    Maybe everyone is ignoring it as un-enforceable.
     
    These things need the sting of fines, an
    increase in taxes,  or a day in the stocks, if
    they are to be effective.
    I have not submitted Matt Arsenault's proposal
    to the Selectmen and town meeting because of the
    lack of scientific criteria and enforcement
    policy.
    Paul 
    ---- Original message ----

      Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 10:57:29 -0400
      From: Bern Kosicki <kosicki at verizon.net>
      Subject: Re: [Atmob-discuss] towns with LP
      laws
      To: "Mario Motta"
      <mmotta at massmed.org>,atmob-announce at atmob.org,ATMOB-discuss
      <atmob-discuss at atmob.org>

      >Mario,
      >
      >Westford, the town of our clubhouse,
      apparently does NOT have a LP law.
      >
      >I called the town offices once to ask, in
      particular, to find out the
      >legality of the flood lights at the auto
      sales place at the corner of 225
      >and 110. These floods spray light fonto the
      road into the driver's eyes
      >just as you are trying to make the corner
      onto 225 and under the I495
      >overpass.
      >
      >Yes, they are legal.
      >
      >Bernie K
      >
      >.At 05:22 PM 7/14/2008, Mario Motta wrote:
      >>Hello,
      >>
      >> last month I asked all to let me know if
      your town has any Light
      >> pollution laws enacted. Though I have
      recieved responses on possible LP
      >> sponsors, no one has let me know about town
      bylaws. I know of a few
      >> (Arlington, Lynnfield, Acton, Harvard,
      townsend, etc), but I need to
      >> compile a complete list, so... I ask again,
      can every club member please
      >> determine if your town has an active light
      Pollution ordinace enacted and
      >> active now, and let me know. At this time,
      not asking for the details,
      >> simple yes/no will suffice,
      >>
      >>Thanks, I need everyone active in this LP
      fight. If not us, who will?
      >>
      >>Mario Motta
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